digiQ zinn rolle rebuild

[epoxy]

moved from rettet eure digiQ's. (going off topic there)

it figures that i have to work with the amount of katalyst.

the instructions from hobbytime were not very clear in
deutsch, nederlands or english unfortunatly.

basic idea:


i doubt if i am the first, but maybe the first to try to make moulds of this type, you see, i havn't a centrifugal machine to do it the profi way, i'm interested to know what results can be made with this "lowtec" solution.
also making a "rolle" in one part is almost impossible,
i should stop trying to reinvent the wheel.

but seeing this result from a failed mould,
and inspite of making a mess, having fun making it,
i did have some test pieces that showed much more detail.

i'll be up for the 2nd try.


gruß

[epoxy]

getting closer.



not perfect yet, but not a bad result without a gussmachine.
i'dd like to make some different wheels too,
maybe a wheel with spokes or holes in them ?


to be continued.

[dela]

"epoxy going selfmademan". Very well done!

Die sehen nicht schlechter aus als damals die schweren Laufrollen für Digiqs von robokalle. Das ist Modellbau!

btw: wollte ich nicht mal eine Tiger aus Silber gießen? Egal, die 100 g Silber, die ich seitdem im Keller liegen habe, dürften heute ein Vermögen wert sein.

[epoxy]

thanks dela, and i was believing it was you who made the
original zinnrolle.
it was a good idea to begin with.

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wollte ich nicht mal eine Tiger aus Silber gießen?

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funny, i had been thinking what other parts could be made
this way.
but a whole silver tiger ?
it would be cool way cool !!!

you need a big mould to do this,
i would suggest Ölformsand or the "lost wax" method.

are you realy going to melt your silver olympic medal ?

[knacki]

It looks that you finally found a solution.
Starting to be the "Digi-Q Micro Tank top tuner ?":D

Freut mich, wenn meine Anregungen zu so guten Ergebnissen führen.


Gruß,

Knacki

[epoxy]

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Freut mich, wenn meine Anregungen zu so guten Ergebnissen führen.

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me too. all that was needed was the magic words "hobby time",
i did not find the right silicone before,
thanks for the missing clue.

top tuning ? yeah, i can even make them drift now.
drifting tanks on Qtube
i guess that one wheel missing is cheating a little.

[dela]

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top tuning ? yeah, i can even make them drift now.
drifting tanks on Qtube
i guess that one wheel missing is cheating a little.

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Strange stuff with softporn music: Too much dope, my dear! Much too much!

Give us more of this!

[epoxy]

the music is pretty bad, it just happened to be on the radio
when i was recording.

i'm truly sorry about that.

maybe next time i'll play my heino collection ?

[Meltdown]

That's looking quite good!
Excellent!
A persistent man will get it right in the end
Where did you get the silicon rubber?
Was it expensive?

The video is hilarious.
The music is too, lol
Heino?
Please have mercy, please you're killing me man, lol
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[epoxy]

hi meltdown.

it worked pretty well, thank you.
though i would rate robokalle's rolle as excellent,
they are much more precise.

but mine are not so bad thinking it came out of
a simple can.

[darf ich werbung machen ?]
the cheapest i found so far is from a Ebay.de store
called "troll factory".

i would not call the red silicone very expensive,
but i'll have to see howlong the moulds will last.

and how about those "slapstick" type of special effects,
i'll bet i tricked you all.

[epoxy]

o.k. maybe i didn't fool you at all.

i've been fooling around a little more.

the details came out pretty nice, but they are difficult
to make.

[knacki]

Applaus

[dela]

Wirklich eine hervorragende Arbeit! Wenn ich daran denke, daß du vor kurzem noch nach den alten Zinnrollen gesucht hast: jetzt bist du der Meister!

Absolut klasse! Beide Daumen hoch!

[Dany_the_kid]

nice

Kann man damit auch AWD-Achsschenkel, oder so was in der Grösse, nachgiessen? Woraus ist die Form, womit wird gegossen, und wo kann man das kaufen, und wie stabil ist das.

MFG
Dany


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[knacki]

Zinn wird hier gegossen, wie der Titel sagt.
Form ist aus Silikon
von Hobbytime, im übrigen auch unter den Links unter Werkstoffe zu finden

Hier habe ich noch etwas gefunden. In günstigen, kleineren (15Eus=500gr.) Gebinden:
Silikon fürs Zinngießen
"Kurzfristig hitzebeständig bis ca.400 - 450 Grad Celsius"

Edit:
Heißer?
Aluminium, Bronze etc mit Formsand
Gugge ma da

[Meltdown]

Wow Top man!
Very nice work!
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[epoxy]

@ all, thanks for the kind replies, it helps.

@knacki, thanks for the translation.

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Kann man damit auch AWD-Achsschenkel, oder so was in der Grösse, nachgiessen?

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wow, maybe knackifish translation could also help here. a steering knuckle ?
many small things could be made this way, but Zinn is not a realy strong metal, it can only take so much before it bends and breaks.
so far i'm basicly only using them as balancing weights.

but in the microRC range it could have some use because the forces used are usually micro too.

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Woraus ist die Form, womit wird gegossen, und wo kann man das kaufen, und wie stabil ist das.

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knacki is right, the trollfactory is a good place to buy this silicone.
don't buy it from some dusty shelf in a backward store,
the silicone has a one year "shelf life". !!

i must say, i'm cheating on the zinn mix here,
it's not realy reinzinn at all.
i'll try DIN style reinzinn next weekend and see how that goes.

bronze is very heiß.
and also expensive to work with.
casting aluminium can be done with ease,
but it's pretty dangerous and very toxic,
better read up on safety precautions before trying that.

keep you posted.

[haegar69]

Nice work and very impressive!! But unfortunately i sold all my DigiQs...

@Dany: Zinn ist zu weich und ist für deine Knuckles mit Sicherheit nicht benutzbar.
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[Dany_the_kid]

HI,

Yes, I ment the steering knuckles.
I try to copy the knuckles I made for my AWD Trial-stick because the milling is very costly and takes a long time. Casting may be faster, if it works. (partly translated with babelfish, noch knackifisch)

MFG
Dany

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[epoxy]

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Nice work and very impressive!! But unfortunately i sold all my DigiQs...

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you did what ? oh noooo!!

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the milling is very costly and takes a long time

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yeah, but the possibillities and choise of materials is much greater.
but i would not like to mill new wheels for all my digiQ's,
it would take forever, but casting them could be done.
maybe i should make a few more moulds and speed up the process a little.
fase 5: mass production.

casting is interesting if you want to produce a series of items,
if you only need two Achsschenkel, i would try to mill them myself.
(if i had a unimat or something)

maybe you could post a picture of the achsschenkel
so we can get a idea ?